Q1 2025 PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust Earnings Call

In This Article:

Participants

David Spector; Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer; PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust

Daniel Perotti; Chief Financial Officer, Senior Managing Director; PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust

Isaac Garden; Senior Vice President, Investor Relations; PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust

Bose George; Analyst; Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, Inc.

Jason Weaver; Analyst; JonesTrading

Doug Harter; Analyst; UBS Securities LLC

Trevor Cranston; Analyst; CitizensJMP Securities, LLC

Eric Hagen; Analyst; BTIG, LLC

Presentation

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to Pennymac Mortgage Investment Trust first quarter 2025 earnings call. (Operator Instructions) Additional earnings materials, including the presentation slides that will be referred to in the call are available on PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust website at pmt.pennymac.com.
Before we begin, let me remind you that this call may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to certain risks identified on slide 2 of the earnings presentation that could cause the company's actual results to differ materially as well as non-GAAP measures that have been reconciled to their GAAP equivalent in the earnings materials.
Now I'd like to introduce David Spector, Pennymac Mortgage Investment Trust's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Dan Perotti, PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust's Chief Financial Officer.

David Spector

Thank you, operator. For the first quarter, PMT produced a net loss to common shareholders of $1 million or diluted earnings per share of negative $0.01. Strong levels of income, excluding market-driven value changes were offset by net fair value declines due to interest rate volatility and credit spread widening. PMT declared a first quarter common dividend of $0.40 per share. Book value per share at March 31 was $15.43, down modestly from December 31.
Current third-party estimates for industry originations averaged $2 trillion in 2025, reflecting projections for growth in overall volumes with moderate contributions from both refinance and purchase. Interest rates have been extremely volatile in recent periods, creating a challenging environment for most mortgage REITs. However, our diversified investment portfolio, efficient cost structure, and strong risk management practices enabled us to effectively manage through these challenging market conditions.
These risk management practices include our well-established interest rate hedging program and the establishment of unique non-mark-to-market financing arrangements for the vast majority of our credit risk transfer investments which enable us to effectively manage through volatile markets.
Turning to slide 5. Our synergistic relationship with PFSI provides PMT with unique and proven competitive advantages. First, PMT leverages PFSI's best-in-class operating platform, including its deep and experienced management team, scaled servicing operations and its large and agile multichannel origination business which provides PMT with a consistent and high-quality pipeline of loans for investment.
Second, our structure allows PMT to efficiently deploy capital into long-term mortgage assets without the operational burdens associated with origination and servicing. And third, PFSI's deep access to the origination market, coupled with PMT's ability to execute private label securitizations and retain the related investments positions PMT to capitalize on the evolving landscape for secondary market execution should the GSEs reduce their footprint. This provides us with access to unique investment opportunities that we believe will generate attractive risk-adjusted returns over time.
Slide 6 highlights our ability to organically create investments from our own private label securitization activity and importantly, the significant opportunity presented by the broader loan pipeline. The increased volume of nonowner-occupied and jumbo loans underscores the potential for future investment. And this growing pipeline of loans provides us with flexibility and optionality to allowing us to strategically invest in assets that align with our long-term return objectives.
In recent periods, PMT has been among the largest issuers of private label securitization, demonstrating our expertise and leadership in this space. In the first quarter, we successfully completed three securitizations of investor loans totaling $1 billion of unpaid principal balance, retaining $94 million in new investments with returns on equity expected to be in the mid-teens.
We believe that our position as the producer of the underlying loans is a competitive advantage providing us with the ability to review and diligence the loans for securitization and subsequent investments. Additionally, our position is the servicer of the underlying loans uniquely positions us to work directly with borrowers in times of stress to minimize losses as evidenced by the strong historical performance of our investments in lender credit risk transfer.
Looking ahead, we expect to continue closing approximately one securitization of nonowner-occupied loans per month, and we anticipate closing approximately one jumbo loan securitization per quarter beginning in the second quarter. This consistent cadence of securitizations underscores our commitment to leveraging our origination capabilities and actively participating in the private label securitization market.
Turning to slide 5. Approximately two-thirds of PMT shareholders' equity is currently invested in the seasoned portfolio of MSR and the unique GSE lender risk share transactions we invested in from 2015 to 2020. As the majority of mortgages underlying these assets were originated during periods of very low interest rates, we continue to believe these investments will perform well over the foreseeable future as low expected prepayments have extended the expected lives of these assets.
While credit spreads have widened the current economic environment, delinquencies remain low. This can be attributed to the overall credit strength of the consumer, combined with the substantial accumulation of home equity in recent years due to continued home price appreciation. Mortgages underlying PMT's large investment in lender originated risk share have a low weighted average current loan-to-value ratio below 50%. As a result, we continue to expect that realized losses will be limited.
MSR investments account for approximately half of PMT's deployed equity. The majority of the underlying mortgages of these MSRs remains far out of the money, and we expect the MSR asset to continue producing stable cash flows over an extended period of time. MSR values also continued to benefit from the higher interest rate environment as the placement fee income PMT receives on custodial balances is closely tied to short-term interest rates.
Similarly, these characteristics are expected to support the performance of these assets over the long term. In closing, our risk management capabilities and diversified investment strategies, which include a seasoned MSR and CRT portfolio, combined with the growing securitization platform, position us very well to continue delivering attractive risk-adjusted returns to our shareholders in 2025 and beyond. And we remain confident in our ability to successfully navigate a volatile and evolving market.
Now I'll turn it over to Dan, who will review the drivers of PMT's first quarter financial performance and PMT's run rate return potential.